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March 30, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
July 20, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed
February 24, 2010	Good article reassessment	Kept
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Separating "Internal conflict" in infobox

Shouldn't the Darul Islam and People's Democratic Front have separate column from the Dutch forces? Currently it's being lumped together with the Dutch forces and only separated by a line. In my opinion, they being in the same column could cause confusion as some readers might interpreted it as they're co-belligerent, while the fact is that they're in conflict with both the republicans and colonial forces. Jauhsekali (talk) 05:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page Protection

@Cal1407, Toddy1, and Kathleen's bike: Please add page protection for this, persistent sockpuppetry and IP vandalism. 182.2.50.179 (talk) 05:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox "commander2" field edit war

There seems to be an edit war over whether the "commander2" field in the infobox should include Wilhelmina and Juliana.An IP editor clearly thinks it should, but never explains why (not even in edit summaries) which makes it very confusing.^{[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]} The objection to this given by Pineapplethen was including Wilhemnina and Juliana is still impractical, since it is not said on the profile that they are directly involved in the military conflict.^[9] Please could somebody explain why they should be included.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:23, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are outlined below:

There are several uncited sentences in the article, including an entire paragraph. Some of these have been tagged with "citation needed" since June.
Some citations, such as "Piccigallo 1979", "Colin & Crey 1988" and "Ricklefs 1993" are used as inline citations, but the article does not give the full reference for them. What are these sources? If they cannot be identified, their use as inline citations should be replaced by another reliable source.

Is anyone interested in fixing up this article, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 19:00, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of the problems with that method of referencing. I have identified two out of the three.

Piccigallo 1979 = Piccigallo, Philip R. (1979). Japanese on Trial: Allied War Crimes Operations in the East, 1945-51. University Of Texas Press.
Ricklefs 1993 = Ricklefs, Merle Calvin. A History of Modern Indonesia: c. 1300 to the Present. had its first edition published in 1981 and 1983 under the name History of Modern Indonesia, its second edition published under the name A History of Modern Indonesia: c. 1300 to the Present by different publishers in 1991, 1993 and 1994, and what I think is the fourth edition published under the name A History of Modern Indonesia since c.1200 in 2008. You cannot assume the same pagination between editions.

-- Toddy1 (talk) 22:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddy1: Thanks for these comments. Are you willing to address the citation concerns? Z1720 (talk) 16:18, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But somebody has fixed these two a few weeks ago. The solutions adopted were (a) to change Ricklefs 1993 to Ricklefs 1991, and (b) to add Piccigallo 1979 to the Bibliography section.-- Toddy1 (talk) 16:40, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And someone realised that "Colin & Crey 1988" meant: Wild, Colin; Carey, Peter, eds. (1988). Born in Fire: The Indonesian Struggle for Independence. Ohio University Press. ISBN 0-8214-0881-X. and fixed that too.-- Toddy1 (talk) 16:42, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddy1: Sorry, I wasn't clear: I was referring to the uncited text in the article. I added citation needed templates to the text that doesn't have an inline citation. Z1720 (talk) 02:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I found solutions to some problems you raised. Have you thought of fixing the other problems yourself?-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:49, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddy1: I am engaged in many projects, both on and off Wikipedia. If other editors want to improve this article, I can be pinged to give feedback or a more thorough review, but I do not have the time nor the interest to research this topic. Z1720 (talk) 14:14, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

Indonesian National Revolution

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Uncited statements. Z1720 (talk) 04:13, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]