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standard CTOPS restrictions

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Is there a reason we include blocks and page protection in the list at Wikipedia:Contentious topics#Standard set when those are already authorized for admins everywhere? Valereee (talk) 16:28, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Because those restrictions then operate under the appeals/reversal procedures of Contentious Topics rather than the traditional procedures. The difference between the two is that CTOP gives a first mover advantage, while the traditional procedures give a second mover advantage. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:30, 13 March 2025 (UTC) Edit: It also requires different processes for appeals than the standard processes which is part of the first/second mover piece but impacts a different person so worth noting separately. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:42, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, got it, so it's the as an AE action part. Thanks! Valereee (talk) 16:33, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Valereee it would be as a Contentious topic action with an AE action being something else and governed by related but slightly different rules (as our discussion around blocking highlights). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:41, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So much still to understand lol...I'll go see if I can figure out the difference before I bug you again here to spoon feed me. :D Valereee (talk) 16:44, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do these have to be logged? Doug Weller talk 19:25, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]